OK Governor Fallin Says Marijuana Legalization Has Caused ‘Huge Problems’
By Keith Mansur
Oregon Cannabis Connection
In a recent interview with conservative Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin, a morning show host on KOKH FOX 25 in Oklahoma City was pushed by social media to ask the budget beleaguered Fallin if there was a possibility of legalizing marijuana as they face a 900 million shortfall in the state. Her response was pathetic.
“We asked our viewers on Facebook what they wanted to talk to you about this morning, and there were two overwhelming themes…The first was legalizing marijuana. They think that could be a huge revenue generator here in the state…Is that even something that’s on the table right now?” Asked Chris Stanford, the host of Good Day OK.
“No, it’s not on the table for me,” said Fallin. “because, I’ve been trying to get people to stay off drugs, and don’t get high, and as we have seen in Colorado and in other states that have legalized marijuana there have been huge problems.”
Fallin went on to express her unfounded fears and use a hypothetical situation to dramatize her point. It was a fallacious argument at best, but it was much more akin to reefer madness we have come to expect from simple minded leaders that have a limited grasp of reality.
“I mean, can you imagine driving with your children or having your children in a school bus driving somewhere on a road and someone is driving along beside you or turning in front of you that’s high on marijuana? Or driving a school bus that’s high on marijuana, I mean, is that what you really want,” explained Fallin in the interview. “Or, do you, as an employer, want someone coming to work that’s high, I mean just think about that.”
And, to finish off her “argument by example”, she ends with a complete falsehood dismissively stating, “And it’s a gateway drug, so … ”
News flash Governor Fallin, it’s not a gateway drug according to most experts today or anyone that grasps the complete fallacy of the gateway drug theory. Your ridiculous argument is a complete joke. Do you think that people are not currently using marijuana in your state? Your arguments are so bad that they are laughable. Millions of Oklahoma residents have smoked marijuana and a great number of them have been driving after use. To think there will be a “spike” in incidents is not supported by facts.
Your idea that there have been huge problems with legalization in Colorado and other states is a complete lie, as well. The governors in every state, except New Jersey and Maine, have accepted and generally praised the recreational and medical systems in their states. The couple of governors that don’t like it have used the same fallacious arguments and lies to impede implementation. The only “huge” problems have been implementing reasonable and functional systems for regulation in the states, and discrimination against cannabis users, not anything associated with cannabis use.
Governor Fallin, if you don’t want to legalize marijuana in Oklahoma, just say you don’t. When you make horrible arguments, you simply show your lack of leadership and inability to grasp reality. There is a special place saved in hell for people that discriminate against others in such a manner.
To continue the persecution of people that want to use a safe and already widely available plant in the privacy of their own space, and one that is proven safer than alcohol, cigarettes, and prescription drugs, you are truly a foolish and incompetent Governor and the people of Oklahoma should throw you out. In fact, they should be ashamed that they elected you at all.
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Oklahomans will have their say on a proposed medical marijuana law that will appear on a statewide ballot next year.
Do we really want to encourage sleeping in our society???!!! Imagine being an employer and your workers all come to work and go to sleep. Or imagine having open heart surgery and your surgeon falls asleep. Or imagine being in an airplane with your children and the pilot falls asleep and kills everyone!
We need to prohibit sleep!!!
How do these morons get elected?
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Imagine minding your own business and letting people make decisions for themselves. Imagine a drunk Sergion or pilot or driver. What if they use it in a responsible manner in there home not bothering anyone. We have drunks in society do we let them drive school buses. Your shelters, and more importantly you should worry about yourself. By the way if I had a high employee who slept on the job I would fire them. What a bunch of ignorant, uneducated points. Sad
She’s not stupid, she’s bought-and-paid-for. Legal cannabis makes more money for the government but illegal cannabis makes more money for the politicians. Big pharm, the prison-for-profit industries and the alcohol cartel all pay big money to people like her to spout those lies.
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There needs to be a correction on your article, 900 billion is a false fact, it is 900 million, big difference there buck-o. Not very good fact checking, sad that a “journalist” doesn’t do their job when reporting the truth…somebody is sleeping on the job *cough the editor cough
What’s most remarkable about this is that some prohibitionists STILL haven’t gotten the message; they can no longer get away with making sweeping negative claims, engaging in hyperbole, spreading misinformation, and telling outright lies about cannabis without being called out for it.
The internet is here now, and the truth, the documented, verifiable, historical truth about cannabis has finally been revealed, and with its revelation, the lies of prohibition have been shown for the evil that they are.
I get where people such as this Governor come from; they have been told all their lives, by an authority that is supposed to protect – not systematically and deliberately deceive them – lies about cannabis.
It is natural that they would internalize such lies to the degree that they seem to now be “common sense.”
But enough has been written, and enough has been shown to dispel those lies that to persist in parroting them can only be seen as willful support of a disastrous and massively wasteful policy.
You might want to re-read the post to which you responded.
This woman needs to get a clue. She is portraying herself as an idiot with her comments.
I come from a state that legalized marijuana and let me just say that they have had more success in catching criminals involved in distributing marijuana without a license. It has helped the state tremendously financially. It has also decreased the amount of Marijuana coming from Mexico. Alcohol has caused many deaths and it is legal. Marijuana is practically impossible to overdose on. In fact, Marijuana has medical purposes.
Record shows that they don’t give a shit what the people want..
I completely agree. Sorry if you missed my previous sarcasm.
She probably stumbling around on Xanax and martinis, but thats ok….. Thats much better!
Oklahoma is the most conservative state in the country and the state government is heavily influenced and controlled by the Baptist church. The Baptist churches rule this place with an iron fist. It’s literally like living under a taliban. Legal recreational marijuana won’t be coming to the state for 30 years at least. The test for Oklahoma will be when Texas, Arkansas, or Missouri legalizes it. One of those states likely will within the next decade. Will Oklahoma take a hands-off approach or will they beef up police force at the state line to try to catch people bringing it back into the state?
You still can’t even buy alcohol on a Sunday there lol, if you do it’s 3.2 percent.
“Imagine a drunk Sergion or pilot or driver.”
…… or a high poster who cant spell.
“It’s literally like living under a taliban.”
yeah, those public stonings and executions for voicing your mind is a terrible thing to live with!
Lol you mean like the one we had this year? The oe the AG purposefully tanked the petition for? The same AG found to be guilty of accepting a multi-million dollar bribe? The same one thats in office? The people already spoke, so did our politicians “your too dumb to really know what you want oklahoma, let us decide for you”
Fallin has run Oklahoma into the ground Now she wants to tax gas 5% Cigs 1.50 pack Why doesn’t she tax the # 1 item They all use alcohol!!! per can and per bottle 1.50 can and 7 dollars a bottle extra!!
when we get a new governor thank god this one be out of office next year. maybe it be legalized. and the school budget get back on track. along with other things this so called governor has failed at
Mary Fallen is a joke! Does anyone know if she drinks alcohol in any form? Casually, or is she really a closet drunk or it’s she getting kick backs from pharmaceutical companies or alcohol companies for not wanting marijuana legalized? If she is a “drinker” in any form I can “almost” guarantee that she’s driven a car with a blood alcohol level Over .08! Anyone who thinks alcohol is safer than cannabis is just not that smart OR they need to do some research from a fair independent source! Fallen and any other person that drinks alcohol but talks trash about people who take cannabis for whatever reason are dumb assess! I don’t want my child to ever smoke or drink but if I had a choice, it would definitely be cannabis! All of you close minded people who have a stigma about cannabis need to do real research… Then eat your heart out! Weed = sleepy, hungry, happy.. Alcohol= ignorant, 7ft tall and bullet proof, angry and wants to fight! GO FIGURE FOLKS!
Actually, Oklahomans, despite voting for the same-old politicians, actually voted somewhat progressively on the ballot measures. The OK Supreme Court recently ruled against Pruitt’s modified title, too, meaning it should show up in 2018 as mentioned by Pat. I could see this passing.
“Or driving a school bus that’s high on marijuana”
We’re still working on the technical difficulties of getting marijuana to flow through the fuel injectors.
does she think she’s not driving next to people who are high, Now? ahaha..all those people on legal prescribed medication? what a joke!
I grew up in Oklahoma and granted, I joined the army the first chance I got in order to escape, but that’s also why I know from experience that the far Christian right is way different than the Taliban. That is an absurd comparison and it tells me that you either don’t truly know anything about Oklahoma or the Taliban, or both.
It is absolutely possible. Hemp fuel is real. Also, Henry Ford developed a plastic that was 10% hemp and more durable than steal. Eliminating 300 lbs, he wanted to make his car parts (where possible) out of the plastic. But then, the great smear campaign started.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
In my opinion it’s the good ole boy, PPP system – Private, FOR PROFIT, Prisons. Really, there is no better prisoner than your average, everyday, minimum security, pot smoker.
You see…the thing with liars is, to let them lie. More and more people are waking, and are seeing things as they are, and if we just let them spin their bullshit, they’ll did their own graves. They fear us.
Why can you always tell by a persons face what political party they belong to? I hate both sides but I swear conservatives look like aliens. She literally looks like some evil corporate puppet. I only had to skim the article to see her, as I call it, hiding behind children for her political agenda. It’s just a shame that only 60% has broken away from the brainwashing behind this subject.
I bet her crazy daughter was twisting up a few in the trailer at the mansion.
Lets find out. Somebody knows her ways.
It’s nice to get to a comments section that doesn’t have a bunch of ISIS recruiters saying “I made $50,000 last month
bla,bla bla…………………. but anyway when Merle came out with “We Don’t Smoke Marijuana in Muskogee” a few friends and a I drove to Muskogee and had a smoke out, those were the day’s
She is stupid.. people been smoking Mary Jane for years.. and nobody should have the right to tell us what we can and cannot have.. if it doesn’t hurt us then we should be aloud to have it!!! I’ll burn money.. we can survive with out it.. Mary Jane is good for all types of things.. fuck what she said she is wrong
In the absence of accountability for what is true, “political reality” bears no resemblance to reality. If there were repercussions for lying, then perhaps our system of governance would be other than the shitshow it is.
its county by county, as to whether the bars are open on sunday.
This is funny I just did an English comp essay for my college class on why I think legalizing it would go a long way towards helping the debt not only in our state, but nationally was wel.
Wow, I am surprised to see the number of under educated people who agree with the author of this message. You will likely get what you want. marijuana will likely become legal in most if not all states. But that does not make it a good thing. Her thoughts are not unfounded. Those who want it will say what ever they need to say so their addictions or hope of an addiction can be satisfied. Each of you sound just like the addict who will say and do anything for another fix. I grew up in the era of drugs, sex and alcohol. I had hoped that as we personally witnessed the problems that surround such addictions we as a nation would stand firmly against any such legalization. Is there a place for it? Yes, there is a place for many things that help people with true medical needs cope until their time in this world is over. But giving access to everyone has always been a bad idea. It will create major issues in our homes, in our work place and on our roads. If people in general ( this includes all of you as well as me) have proven one thing, it is that they can seldom be trusted with such decisions in their own lives. Why? Because we seldom make the correct choice.
Or an author of an article that can’t spell “million” correctly.
Medical will be legal in 2018 most likely. It will be on ballot for sure. I highly doubt it would take another 29 years for recreational, more like 5-10.
Yep, and with marijuana on the ballot, a democrat that supports gun rights would have a chance, as this is going to bring out a lot of liberal voters. I’m not a liberal voter, but I would vote for Dorman over Fallan next year, but a straight (R) down the rest of the ballot.
I myself am far from the left. I’m curious what your objections to legalization are just in case I didn’t consider all the facts before deciding to be for complete marijuana legalization. Would you mind sharing the things that convinced you to decide against medical and/or recreational legalization? I’m mostly interested in your reasons for not legalizing, not your reasons for why someone shouldn’t, but feel free to share both if you wish.
I’m a recently converted Dem who absolutely supports gun rights, and believes strongly in the necessity for the 2nd Amendment. Of course, I also believe drug testing violates the 5th Amendment on its face, so I probably couldn’t get elected in this State….. 😉
” hope of an addiction…”
Dear god, how insane or utterly ignorant do you have to be, to believe that anyone “hopes” for an addiction?
Marijuana isn’t physically addictive, to begin with, and is MUCH less psychologically addictive than alcohol.
Tsk Tsk yet another embarrassing Okie politician. Mary might not take a toke now and then but I wonder why I’ve heard her reefered to as Mary Fellatio due to her apparent fetish over Okie State Troopers? Hmmmm….. do tell Mary!
Just keep up the good work Danny Dan….you and your fellow repugnantcunts are hugely responsible for the 900,000,000 dollar shortfall that has literally made our educational systems, which continually rate at the bottom or near bottom, left with teachers receiving salaries that even our Arkansas neighbors are paying better for their teachers. Yep… keep it up Dan Dan. I, for one, am so tired of our supposed leaders vying to see just which one can say he is the most conservative while our infrastructures deteriorate, our schools remain a joke, and people from other states wondering just how stupid we are??
I don’t approve of lowering income taxes which compounded the budget problem caused by the drop of oil and natural gas prices. Income taxes should have increased to make up the difference if enough cannot be cut elsewhere. That said, a typical Democrat won’t get my vote because typical Democrats share my positions on fewer issues than typical Republicans.
$8,751 per pupil is plenty to educate a child per year. Give me a voucher for the same amount and I’ll send my kids to private school.
Legalizing marijuana doesn’t mean it’s legal to drive while on it. Same goes for operating heavy machinery. Or performing certain duties. Just like alcohol is legal. But, there are limitations to when one can be drunk.
This would definitely ease some of the burden of the correctional system.
Not to mention it would give some people a reason to “travelok.com”. Especially since she shut down most of the.state parks.
Minimum security if they’re lucky. I work at a prison and have seen people doing more time in a medium security for simple possession than others for distributing. The court system is totally messed up.
If there was ever a breakup of this country, I would do everything I could to get to New Mexico or Colorado, even if I had to do it on foot. Why? Because these things would be happening in Oklahoma if not for the protection of the US Constitution. I grew up in the Independent Fundamental Baptist churches of OKC and I know how they think and what kind of society they want. Scary stuff for anybody who isn’t one of them or close enough theologically to be tolerated.
I bet she is a full-blown alcoholic.
Look at how long it’s taken to end alcohol prohibition. Oklahoma finally voted to do it in 2016 and it’s not going into effect until 2018. 99 years after prohibition was passed nationally, Oklahoma is finally doing away with it.
Tattoos were only legalized in 2002 or 2003 (can’t remember which year).
Don’t get me wrong…Okies will be able to light up without fear within the next 10-15 years. However, they will have to drive to Gainesville or Fort Smith to stock up…or at best tribal land. Oklahoma will be one of the last states if not the last state to allow dispensaries. The Baptists will ensure it.
Alcohol may have been regulated more than you wanted, but prohibition in OK ended many years ago at the state level.
If we pass it in 2018, I’d bet we have medical dispensaries by 2020.
She shows a neural insecurity…a shallowness. I live in colorado and like to smoke. Many people are creative. There are homeless problems of course…but they are in all big cities, including Denver. She would probably like to save people for Jesus too but can’t state it directly. Where’s the problem? Hmmm…..In HER MIRROR!
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This has nothing to do with the real situation. It just bribed, so it happens. In fact, the legalization of marijuana would bring great profits for the country!
Here is the report of the tax department of Colorado. Http: //dailycaller.com/…/ colorado-just-became-the … / … Last year the state collected more money from excise taxes on marijuana than from excise taxes on alcohol. Cannabis sellers last year paid the local authorities a total of $ 70 million, and all alcohol companies – only $ 42 million.
All this proves once again that the ban on light drugs around the world is nothing more than a banal oppression of the rights of citizens. But the states continue to wage war on drugs. However, in America it is already realized that this is meaningless.
The right to decide whether or not to use marijuana should belong to the person himself, and not to the state. If the actions of a particular person do not harm other people, then the government should not tell them whether there is something or not.
Do you want to be sure of the medical benefits of cannabis? Then watch this video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNT8Zo_sfwo. In the world, millions of people use cannabis. And it helps!
To establish itself in assessing the benefits of marijuana, it is necessary to study its consequences and cannabis classes. Https: //www.dankcitycollective.com/learn-medical … this is written here.
Legalization has already begun, and very soon we will see the positive results of this decision!
From “The Lancet” British medical association journal.
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You probably like big government down our throats…But then again you are a Right Wing Nut
She needs to just take her same arguments and insert “alcohol”.
I do not question this woman’s sincerity. People have certain beliefs, and sometimes they really really believe them.
She says, “Or, do you, as an employer, want someone coming to work that’s high, I mean just think about that.”
But she needs to understand the following:
When people come to work drunk, it’s obvious.
When people come to work high, there are no noticeable symptoms. Why? Because people can FULLY FUNCTION even while on cannabis. They can drive a car (but, no, not a school bus, nor any large commercial vehicle. we don’t take any chances there, sorry.) as well as anyone else on the road. No one runs off the road or into another vehicle because they are high. They can also perform just as well at work. Sometimes better, sometimes a little worse, but it really fuels some people and gives them energy and creativity. That’s needed in many roles.
Since the Governor is so concerned about public safety, her main target- by HUGE bounds- should be alcohol. But she’s not going to do that, because people can use alcohol safely, and it is unjust to deprive them of their freedom of use.
Governor, the same can be said about cannabis. And SHOULD be said. It is un-American, and unjust, to persecute a peaceful populace for exercising their right to personal freedom and pursuit of happiness.
Big Big Gov is what you little Right Wing nuts are..You Right Wingers are even against Medical Pot…It proves that you are for Socialized Medicine.
Just replace the word marijuana with alcohol and ask those same questions, Governor.
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